Lawyer Spartak Ngjela, invited to the MCN, discussed the situation of migrants and the sending of rejected asylum seekers by Italy to the Gjadri camp. He stressed that this action is a request of the Italian government and that the Albanian government should have a clear position, explaining the measures being taken.
Ngjela criticized the government for lack of transparency and for failing to create a clear strategy for the treatment of migrants, emphasizing that Albania does not have the capacity to hold such a number of migrants.
Regarding international agreements, Ngjela emphasized that any contract must be in accordance with Albanian interests and laws, and that the government should not sign agreements without making them public. He warned that the lack of a clear position and the failure to adopt the appropriate measures could have serious consequences for the stability and future of Albania in relation to migration and international relations.
Interview:
-Mr. Ngjela, as we heard, the Italian government has decided to send rejected asylum seekers to the Gjadri camp. In terms of politics, do you think the Albanian government should have a new stance? Because the subject that is accommodated in the camp changes?
“This is the request of the Italians and we must take into account one thing that they have tried to go to Italy and then it has its own laws and the Albanian state cannot intervene. This is an issue that must be resolved with an agreement. Here we have an emigration…we have emigrants who are seeking emigration to Italy and they have returned from there. So far, the Italian state has been financing them, but we are unclear about what is being requested and rejected. It is the duty of every state to explain to the public what measures are being taken. We must take into account that these are not Albanian emigrants, but from other countries.”
-In the reports that have been made, there is a remark that the term of stay of asylum seekers in centers in countries outside the EU is not set. Is there a risk that Gjadri will turn into a gathering point for immigrants for whom the day will come when the Albanian government will not know what to do?
“This is nonsense in the function of Albanian jurisdiction. All this concession is being made by the prime minister who comes from painting who does not know any laws or anything. You can be a humanist, but you must take into account what the costs are. The responsibility of immigrants is Italy because they have constitutional violations and not us. They have accepted those immigrants. Italy is saved from the “aggression” that foreigners who want to go to Europe are doing and Albania that does not understand anything legal will bear the entire burden.”
-Why do these people not return to their countries of origin but are transferred to countries like Albania? Even in Great Britain today, the secretary for internal affairs has admitted that discussions are being held with the Albanian government on the same issue. How can everyone behave in Albania because there is something that seems to exceed the capacities of our country?
“Capacity has no value if they pay rent to the Albanian state. Because with that money the Albanian state can help its own society. Who pays the state rent for those lands where the camps are being set up?! Why don’t they go to Greece, but come to Albania. Because they know that there is no government here. If the prime minister has not established a lease on Albanian land, then there is anti-Albanian activity.”
-We have the Iranian mujahedeen, whose stay is unknown for how long, there are the Afghans for whom Mr. Rama declared that they can stay as long as they want. Now two other countries want to bring their problem to Albania. Is there a limit to how long the Albanian government will respond in this direction?
“We don’t know anymore whether the Albanian government is run by Belgrade and Paris or by the Albanian will? I know the anti-Albanian philosophy and it shows that we can possibly pay to populate Albania with foreigners. Does the prime minister know this? If he knows and doesn’t take measures, it is because he is anti-Albanian.”
-Can we believe that in some way the Albanian government exchanged the agreement on the recognition of pensions with the agreement on immigrants?
“Everything has a contractual basis and if there is a contract that Rama has made on behalf of his government and does not make it public, it is an anti-Albanian activity.”
-In legal terms, the Constitutional Court has assessed that the November Protocol is in accordance with the Constitution. According to you, does the change that the Italian government is now making deserve an assessment from the Albanian government?
“No change is made without an agreement. The government must make public all agreements made in the name of the Albanian people. I am convinced that nothing has been agreed upon, but in 3 words I can say ‘this is the Albanian government’. Albanians must know that painters are not made prime ministers, they do it out of ignorance. If the DP comes with Saliu, the situation will be 10 times worse than what Rama is doing. Because Rama did it out of ignorance, but Saliu has proven to be anti-Albanian. If one did it out of ignorance, the other did it out of anti-Albanian desire.”
