{"id":55332,"date":"2018-12-18T14:46:25","date_gmt":"2018-12-18T13:46:25","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/zjarr.tv\/?p=55332"},"modified":"2018-12-18T14:46:25","modified_gmt":"2018-12-18T13:46:25","slug":"berisha-per-der-standard-thaci-po-valevit-flamurin-e-serbise-se-madhe-me-ramen-iniciator","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/zjarr.tv\/en\/berisha-per-der-standard-thaci-po-valevit-flamurin-e-serbise-se-madhe-me-ramen-iniciator\/","title":{"rendered":"Berisha p\u00ebr \u2018Der Standard\u2019: Tha\u00e7i po val\u00ebvit flamurin e Serbis\u00eb s\u00eb Madhe me Ram\u00ebn iniciator"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Intervista e plot\u00eb:<\/p>\n<p>STANDARD: Jav\u00ebn e kaluar, Kosova dhe Shqip\u00ebria vendos\u00ebn t\u00eb leht\u00ebsojn\u00eb kontrollet kufitare dhe tarifat. A \u00ebsht\u00eb ky nj\u00eb sinjal n\u00eb drejtim t\u00eb \u2018Shqip\u00ebris\u00eb s\u00eb Madhe\u2019?<\/p>\n<p>Berisha: Bashk\u00ebpunimi midis Shqip\u00ebris\u00eb dhe Kosov\u00ebs \u00ebsht\u00eb i r\u00ebnd\u00ebsish\u00ebm, por kryeministri Edi Rama po p\u00ebrpiqet t\u00eb p\u00ebrdor\u00eb Kosov\u00ebn p\u00ebr t\u00eb ushtruar presion mbi BE-n\u00eb, dhe kjo \u00ebsht\u00eb e gabuar dhe e d\u00ebmshme. Ai thot\u00eb se n\u00eb qoft\u00eb se integrimi i Shqip\u00ebris\u00eb n\u00eb BE nuk ndodh, ne mund t\u00eb bashkojm\u00eb Shqip\u00ebrin\u00eb dhe Kosov\u00ebn. Por kjo nuk ndihmon Shqip\u00ebrin\u00eb p\u00ebr t\u00eb hapur negociatat.<\/p>\n<p>STANDARD: Ka disa p\u00ebrpjekje p\u00ebr ta ndar\u00eb Kosov\u00ebn. Presidenti serb Aleksander Vu\u00e7iq dhe ai kosovar Hashim Tha\u00e7i propozojn\u00eb nj\u00eb shk\u00ebmbim territorial, fshatrat serbe n\u00eb Kosov\u00eb do bashkohen me Serbi, nd\u00ebrsa fshatrat shqiptare n\u00eb Serbi do t\u00eb bashkohen me Kosov\u00ebn. Cilat jan\u00eb pasojat?<\/p>\n<p>Berisha: Ky shk\u00ebmbim i kufijve dhe i territoreve dhe ndarjeve nuk \u00ebsht\u00eb gj\u00eb tjet\u00ebr ve\u00e7se ideja e Serbis\u00eb s\u00eb Madhe. Kjo fillon me Mitrovic\u00ebn n\u00eb Kosov\u00eb dhe vazhdon n\u00eb Bosnje. Megjithat\u00eb, Serbia e Madhe ka qen\u00eb gjithmon\u00eb nj\u00eb burim i jostabilitetit, luft\u00ebs dhe konfliktit n\u00eb k\u00ebt\u00eb rajon. Pra, n\u00ebse ndjekim k\u00ebt\u00eb ide t\u00eb ndryshimit t\u00eb kufizuar, at\u00ebher\u00eb ne jemi plot\u00ebsisht duke folur p\u00ebr konfliktet, pastrimin dhe shtetet nj\u00ebetnike. Minoritetet nuk jan\u00eb problem n\u00eb rajon, e kund\u00ebrta \u00ebsht\u00eb n\u00eb k\u00ebt\u00eb rast: shumica jan\u00eb problemi. Problemi nuk jan\u00eb qytetar\u00ebt e Mitrovic\u00ebs, por bandat e Mitrovic\u00ebs, t\u00eb cil\u00ebt jan\u00eb n\u00eb kontakt me politikan\u00ebt n\u00eb Beograd dhe me politikan\u00ebt shqiptar\u00eb. Mafia nuk ka baba. K\u00ebta njer\u00ebz po kontrabandojn\u00eb dhe diktojn\u00eb. Dhe k\u00ebshtu shumica po p\u00ebrpiqen t\u00eb azhurnojn\u00eb problemet e tyre p\u00ebr minoritetet.<\/p>\n<p>STANDARD: Po n\u00eb lidhje me bashk\u00ebsin\u00eb nd\u00ebrkomb\u00ebtare?<\/p>\n<p>Berisha: Ka njer\u00ebz n\u00eb BE q\u00eb po e shtyjn\u00eb iden\u00eb p\u00ebr nj\u00eb ndarje t\u00eb Kosov\u00ebs, nj\u00eb zgjidhje t\u00eb ashtuquajtur &#8220;t\u00eb thjesht\u00eb&#8221;. Megjithat\u00eb, kjo mund t\u00eb ket\u00eb nj\u00eb kosto t\u00eb lart\u00eb. N\u00ebse bashk\u00ebsia nd\u00ebrkomb\u00ebtare beson se ka ardhur koha p\u00ebr t\u00eb ndryshuar kufijt\u00eb n\u00eb Ballkan, at\u00ebher\u00eb duhet t\u00eb mblidhet nj\u00eb konferenc\u00eb nd\u00ebrkomb\u00ebtare dhe t\u00eb vendos\u00eb kufizime t\u00eb reja. Por t\u00eb mendosh se Tha\u00e7i ose Vu\u00e7iq mund t\u00eb ndryshojn\u00eb kufijt\u00eb, nuk \u00ebsht\u00eb nj\u00eb ide e mir\u00eb. Tha\u00e7i tani luan flamurin e Serbis\u00eb s\u00eb Madhe n\u00eb em\u00ebr t\u00eb Vu\u00e7iqit. Tha\u00e7i, megjithat\u00eb, nuk ka mb\u00ebshtetje n\u00eb Kosov\u00eb. Nuk ka asnj\u00eb parti apo institucion tjet\u00ebr p\u00ebrve\u00e7 Presidenc\u00ebs p\u00ebr k\u00ebt\u00eb iniciativ\u00eb, e cila \u00ebsht\u00eb nisma e Serbis\u00eb p\u00ebr 30 vjet. Tha\u00e7i p\u00ebrpiqet t\u00eb shes\u00eb nj\u00eb projekt si shqiptar, i cili gjithmon\u00eb ishte serb.<\/p>\n<p>STANDARD: Por ai ka mb\u00ebshtetje nga lobist\u00eb t\u00eb ndrysh\u00ebm n\u00eb Evrop\u00eb. Ideja u mb\u00ebshtet edhe nga disa njer\u00ebz n\u00eb BE dhe SHBA. Kush q\u00ebndron prapa k\u00ebtyre njer\u00ebzve?<\/p>\n<p>Berisha: Po, ka nj\u00eb grup njer\u00ebzish n\u00eb BE. Shumica e k\u00ebtyre jan\u00eb njer\u00ebz q\u00eb nuk kan\u00eb dijeni p\u00ebr Ballkanin. Nga t\u00eb gjith\u00eb ata q\u00eb kan\u00eb kaluar vite n\u00eb Ballkan, ka vet\u00ebm nj\u00eb person q\u00eb e mb\u00ebshtet k\u00ebt\u00eb ide &#8211; \u00cbolfgang Petritsch. Por pse ka kaq shum\u00eb njer\u00ebz q\u00eb e njohin rajonin dhe e kund\u00ebrshtojn\u00eb k\u00ebt\u00eb ide nd\u00ebrsa t\u00eb tjer\u00ebt e mb\u00ebshtesin at\u00eb? Ka dy m\u00ebnyra p\u00ebr t\u00eb shpjeguar k\u00ebt\u00eb: ata q\u00eb mb\u00ebshtesin iden\u00eb jan\u00eb njer\u00ebz q\u00eb nuk e njohin mir\u00eb zon\u00ebn. Ata mendojn\u00eb se n\u00ebse t\u00eb dy pal\u00ebt bien dakord me shk\u00ebmbimin e territorit, ata nuk duhet t\u00eb kund\u00ebrshtojn\u00eb iden\u00eb. Shpjegimi i dyt\u00eb \u00ebsht\u00eb ndikimi i Serbis\u00eb dhe parat\u00eb. \u00cbsht\u00eb nj\u00eb ndikim shum\u00eb i fort\u00eb dhe shum\u00eb para p\u00ebr k\u00ebt\u00eb iniciativ\u00eb. Beogradi \u00ebsht\u00eb n\u00eb nj\u00eb pozit\u00eb t\u00eb rehatshme tani q\u00eb ka gjetur se Tha\u00e7i mbante flamurin p\u00ebr Serbin\u00eb. Fatkeq\u00ebsia q\u00eb do t\u00eb vij\u00eb prej saj do t\u00eb shihet m\u00eb von\u00eb. Ata q\u00eb mb\u00ebshtesin ndryshimin e kufijve, si Federica Mogherini &#8211; t\u00eb cil\u00ebt ndoshta jan\u00eb t\u00eb gjith\u00eb proserb &#8211; luajn\u00eb k\u00ebtu, megjithat\u00eb, me paqe dhe luft\u00eb.<\/p>\n<p>STANDARD: A ka ndonj\u00eb politikan n\u00eb Shqip\u00ebri t\u00eb cil\u00ebt mb\u00ebshtesin k\u00ebt\u00eb ndryshim kufitar p\u00ebrgjat\u00eb kufijve etnik\u00eb midis Kosov\u00ebs dhe Serbis\u00eb?<\/p>\n<p>Berisha: Edi Rama e mb\u00ebshtet k\u00ebt\u00eb. L\u00ebvizja e vjet\u00ebr komuniste n\u00eb Shqip\u00ebri e konsideron Kosov\u00ebn si nj\u00eb p\u00ebrpjekje p\u00ebr t\u00eb luajtur p\u00ebr interesat e veta. Por ekziston nj\u00eb drejtim tjet\u00ebr q\u00eb e respekton Kosov\u00ebn. U rrita me iden\u00eb solide t\u00eb bashkimit t\u00eb kombit n\u00eb m\u00ebnyr\u00eb q\u00eb Kosova t\u00eb b\u00ebhet pjes\u00eb e Shqip\u00ebris\u00eb. Por n\u00eb vitin 1991 pash\u00eb nj\u00eb realitet tjet\u00ebr n\u00eb Kosov\u00eb, dhe pastaj e mb\u00ebshtetja projektin e tyre &#8211; pavar\u00ebsin\u00eb. Prandaj nuk kam negociuar me Beogradin n\u00eb lidhje me Kosov\u00ebn &#8211; pa marr\u00eb parasysh se sa insistuan &#8211; sepse thash\u00eb: Kosova ka p\u00ebrfaq\u00ebsuesit e vet. Rama \u00ebsht\u00eb nga shkolla e vjet\u00ebr. Tani ai \u00ebsht\u00eb i lumtur ta paraqes\u00eb veten m\u00eb t\u00eb r\u00ebnd\u00ebsish\u00ebm. Kam lexuar se Carl Bildt &#8211; dhe i besoj atij &#8211; ka th\u00ebn\u00eb se Rama nuk \u00ebsht\u00eb kund\u00ebr ndarjes s\u00eb Kosov\u00ebs dhe k\u00ebsaj marr\u00ebveshjeje. Rama nuk refuzoi. Tani ai thot\u00eb se jo dhe po p\u00ebr k\u00ebt\u00eb ide, dhe kjo do t\u00eb thot\u00eb se ai do t\u00eb thot\u00eb po. Por Rama nuk ka mb\u00ebshtetje n\u00eb Shqip\u00ebri n\u00eb partin\u00eb e tij. Por ai tani nuk mund t\u00eb jet\u00eb i hapur p\u00ebr t\u00eb, edhe pse ka shum\u00eb informacione t\u00eb brendshme q\u00eb e b\u00ebjn\u00eb at\u00eb nj\u00eb nga iniciator\u00ebt e k\u00ebtij projekti.<\/p>\n<p>STANDARD: Cili, p\u00ebr shembull?<\/p>\n<p>Berisha: Po, n\u00ebse George Soros \u00ebsht\u00eb i p\u00ebrfshir\u00eb n\u00eb projekt, at\u00ebher\u00eb shum\u00eb njer\u00ebz thon\u00eb se \u00ebsht\u00eb ashtu. Vet\u00ebm k\u00ebt\u00eb ver\u00eb pam\u00eb Sorosi i vog\u00ebl (biri i Xhorxh Sorosit) q\u00eb fluturoi tre her\u00eb nga Prishtina n\u00eb Tiran\u00eb, nga Tirana n\u00eb Beograd, nga Beogradi n\u00eb Prishtin\u00eb.<\/p>\n<p>STANDARD: A jan\u00eb p\u00ebrfshir\u00eb edhe amerikan\u00ebt n\u00eb lobimin p\u00ebr k\u00ebt\u00eb shk\u00ebmbim?<\/p>\n<p>Berisha: Nj\u00eb nga kontributet m\u00eb t\u00eb m\u00ebdha t\u00eb amerikan\u00ebve n\u00eb rajon ishte se ata ishin n\u00eb m\u00ebnyr\u00eb t\u00eb vendosur n\u00eb kufi. Kur disa evropian\u00eb k\u00ebrkonin &#8220;zgjidhje t\u00eb thjeshta&#8221; dhe donin t\u00eb ndryshonin kufijt\u00eb, Shtetet e Bashkuara q\u00ebndronin kund\u00ebr dhe respektonin kufijt\u00eb. Tani nuk e di m\u00eb.<\/p>\n<p>STANDARD: \u00c7far\u00eb do t\u00eb ndodhte n\u00ebse kufijt\u00eb do t\u00eb t\u00ebrhiqen p\u00ebrgjat\u00eb vijave etnike? Si reagojn\u00eb shqiptar\u00ebt n\u00eb Mal t\u00eb Zi, Maqedoni dhe Greqi?<\/p>\n<p>Berisha: Do t\u00eb ishte nj\u00eb inkurajim i madh p\u00ebr t\u00eb tjer\u00ebt q\u00eb t\u00eb k\u00ebrkojn\u00eb ndryshime kufitare kudo. Por t\u00eb gjitha konfliktet dhe luft\u00ebrat n\u00eb Ballkan n\u00eb 100 vitet e fundit erdh\u00ebn nga ideja e ndryshimit t\u00eb kufijve.<\/p>\n<p>STANDARD: Ideja e t\u00ebrheqjes s\u00eb kufijve etnik\u00eb \u00ebsht\u00eb e kund\u00ebrta e asaj q\u00eb BE-ja ka mb\u00ebshtetur n\u00eb Ballkan q\u00eb nga viti 1991. \u00c7far\u00eb ndodh n\u00eb Ballkan kur zyrtar\u00ebt e BE-s\u00eb fillojn\u00eb t\u00eb mb\u00ebshtesin idet\u00eb q\u00eb m\u00eb par\u00eb ishin persekutuar vet\u00ebm nga nacionalist\u00ebt ballkanas?<\/p>\n<p>Berisha: N\u00eb \u00e7do rast, \u00ebsht\u00eb e kund\u00ebrta e ideve mbi t\u00eb cilat bazohet BE. Angazhimi n\u00eb shtete thjesht etnike dhe duke th\u00ebn\u00eb se shtetet multietnike ose pakic\u00eb nuk kthehen n\u00eb koh\u00ebt e lashta.<\/p>\n<p>STANDARD: A p\u00ebrfshin kjo politik\u00eb edhe rritjen e nacionalizmit dhe t\u00eb mendimit etnik n\u00eb Evrop\u00eb dhe SHBA?<\/p>\n<p>Berisha: Natyrisht. N\u00eb vend q\u00eb t\u00eb konsideroj\u00eb hyrjen n\u00eb BE dhe integrimin, Vu\u00e7iqi e rezervon Serbin\u00eb. Vu\u00e7iqi \u00ebsht\u00eb plot\u00ebsisht i angazhuar p\u00ebr Serbin\u00eb e Madhe, shum\u00eb m\u00eb tep\u00ebr se integrimi n\u00eb BE.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Intervista e plot\u00eb: STANDARD: Jav\u00ebn e kaluar, Kosova dhe Shqip\u00ebria vendos\u00ebn t\u00eb leht\u00ebsojn\u00eb kontrollet kufitare dhe tarifat. A \u00ebsht\u00eb ky nj\u00eb sinjal n\u00eb drejtim t\u00eb \u2018Shqip\u00ebris\u00eb s\u00eb Madhe\u2019? Berisha: Bashk\u00ebpunimi midis Shqip\u00ebris\u00eb dhe Kosov\u00ebs \u00ebsht\u00eb i r\u00ebnd\u00ebsish\u00ebm, por kryeministri Edi Rama po p\u00ebrpiqet t\u00eb p\u00ebrdor\u00eb Kosov\u00ebn p\u00ebr t\u00eb ushtruar presion mbi BE-n\u00eb, dhe kjo \u00ebsht\u00eb [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2013,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[241,235],"tags":[],"class_list":{"0":"post-55332","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","6":"category-aktualitet","7":"category-vendi"},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/zjarr.tv\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/55332","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/zjarr.tv\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/zjarr.tv\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/zjarr.tv\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2013"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/zjarr.tv\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=55332"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/zjarr.tv\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/55332\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/zjarr.tv\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=55332"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/zjarr.tv\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=55332"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/zjarr.tv\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=55332"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}