{"id":82134,"date":"2019-05-02T15:01:41","date_gmt":"2019-05-02T13:01:41","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/zjarr.tv\/?p=82134"},"modified":"2019-05-02T15:01:41","modified_gmt":"2019-05-02T13:01:41","slug":"thaci-per-der-spiegel-me-serbet-na-ndan-nje-lum-me-gjak","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/zjarr.tv\/sq\/thaci-per-der-spiegel-me-serbet-na-ndan-nje-lum-me-gjak\/","title":{"rendered":"Tha\u00e7i p\u00ebr &#8220;Der Spiegel&#8221;: Me serb\u00ebt na ndan nj\u00eb lum me gjak"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Presidenti i Kosov\u00ebs Hashim Tha\u00e7i n\u00eb nj\u00eb intervist\u00eb p\u00ebr gjermanen &#8220;Der Spiegel&#8221; ka deklaruar se me serb\u00ebt i ndan nj\u00eb lum me gjak. Tha\u00e7i tha se nuk kishte pritshm\u00ebri nga samiti i Berlinit, por vler\u00ebsoi angazhimin personal t\u00eb kancelares Merkel dhe Presidentit Macron.<\/p>\n<p>Intervista e plot\u00eb e Tha\u00e7it p\u00ebr Der Spiegel:<\/p>\n<p><strong>Der SPIEGEL:<\/strong>\u00a0Z. President kishte shpresa t\u00eb m\u00ebdha n\u00eb Samitin e Ballkanit Per\u00ebndimor, por rezultati nuk \u00ebsht\u00eb edhe aq i k\u00ebnaqsh\u00ebm, nuk pati asgj\u00eb m\u00eb shum\u00eb se nj\u00eb deklarim t\u00eb paqart\u00eb q\u00eb t\u00eb rifilloj\u00eb dialogu mes Serbis\u00eb dhe Kosov\u00ebs. A jeni i zhg\u00ebnjyer?<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u00a0Hashim Tha\u00e7i:\u00a0<\/strong>Nuk kam pasur pritshm\u00ebri t\u00eb m\u00ebdha p\u00ebr k\u00ebt\u00eb Samit, por e vler\u00ebsoj lart\u00eb nism\u00ebn dhe p\u00ebrkushtimin personal t\u00eb kancelares Merkel dhe presidentit Macron dhe shpresoj q\u00eb ne do t\u00eb arrijm\u00eb rezultatet e para t\u00eb prekshme n\u00eb Samitin e ardhsh\u00ebm. Der SPIEGEL: Me q\u00ebllim t\u00eb vendosjes s\u00eb nj\u00eb paqeje t\u00eb q\u00ebndrueshme midis Kosov\u00ebs dhe Serbis\u00eb, u diskutua koh\u00ebt e fundit edhe nj\u00eb shk\u00ebmbim territorial: pjesa veriore me shumic\u00eb serbe t\u2019i takoj\u00eb Beogradit, dhe Kosov\u00ebs t\u2019i bashkohet Lugina e Preshev\u00ebs, e banuar nga shqiptar\u00ebt. \u00c7far\u00eb mendoni ju p\u00ebr k\u00ebt\u00eb?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Hashim Tha\u00e7i:<\/strong>\u00a0Ka pasur shum\u00eb keqkuptime. Ne nuk do t\u00eb pranojm\u00eb ndonj\u00eb shk\u00ebmbim territorial. Un\u00eb nuk lejoj ndonj\u00eb tregti t\u00eb till\u00eb. Ne gjithashtu nuk duam q\u00eb n\u00eb Kosov\u00eb t\u00eb ket\u00eb nj\u00eb Republika Srpska t\u00eb dyt\u00eb, dmth. si n\u00eb Bosnj\u00eb, nj\u00eb pjes\u00eb t\u00eb kontrolluar nga Serbia. Kjo mund t\u00eb ndodh\u00eb n\u00ebse ne n\u00eb nj\u00eb far\u00eb m\u00ebnyre i japim veriut nj\u00eb status t\u00eb ve\u00e7ant\u00eb. Kosova \u00ebsht\u00eb shtet multietnik. Prandaj, nuk do t\u00eb ket\u00eb demarkacione sipas kritereve etnike.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Der SPIEGEL:<\/strong>\u00a0I ashtuquajturi shk\u00ebmbim i tokave nuk q\u00ebndron p\u00ebr ju m\u00eb. \u00c7far\u00eb doni at\u00ebher\u00eb?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Hashim Tha\u00e7i:<\/strong>\u00a0Kjo kurr\u00eb nuk ka qen\u00eb ide e imja, por ashtu disi u krijua. Sidoqoft\u00eb, un\u00eb do t\u00eb doja q\u00eb zonat e banuara me popullat\u00eb shqiptare n\u00eb Lugin\u00ebn e Preshev\u00ebs, Bujanovcit dhe Medvegj\u00ebs t\u00eb jen\u00eb m\u00eb af\u00ebr Kosov\u00ebs, p\u00ebrmes kufijve t\u00eb hapura, por pa ndryshuar kufijt\u00eb, madje as nj\u00eb centimet\u00ebr. Atje shqiptar\u00ebt diskriminohen nga serb\u00ebt.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Der SPIEGEL:\u00a0<\/strong>A besoni me t\u00eb v\u00ebrtet\u00eb q\u00eb Beogradi do t&#8217;ju l\u00ebr\u00eb k\u00ebto zona?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Hashim Tha\u00e7i:<\/strong>\u00a0Un\u00eb po flas nga nj\u00eb perspektiv\u00eb evropiane: n\u00ebse Serbia dhe Kosova do t\u00eb b\u00ebhen an\u00ebtare t\u00eb BE-s\u00eb, at\u00ebher\u00eb nj\u00eb bashkim i till\u00eb do t\u00eb ishte e mundur. Serbia duhet ta njoh\u00eb Kosov\u00ebn m\u00eb n\u00eb fund. Dhe un\u00eb k\u00ebrkoj nga Serbia q\u00eb ta pranoj\u00eb gjenocidin e b\u00ebr\u00eb ndaj shqiptar\u00ebve n\u00eb Kosov\u00eb.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Der SPIEGEL:<\/strong>\u00a0\u00c7far\u00eb koncesionesh \u00ebsht\u00eb Prishtina e gatshme t\u2019i b\u00ebj Serbis\u00eb, n\u00eb veri p.sh.?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Hashim Tha\u00e7i:<\/strong>\u00a0Zero! Pse duhet ta b\u00ebjm\u00eb k\u00ebt\u00eb? Serb\u00ebt n\u00eb veri jan\u00eb qytetar\u00eb t\u00eb Kosov\u00ebs me t\u00eb gjitha t\u00eb drejtat.<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Der SPIEGEL:<\/strong>\u00a0 P\u00ebrfaq\u00ebsuesja e BE-s\u00eb p\u00ebr pun\u00eb t\u00eb jashtme, Federica Mogherini ishte shprehur p\u00ebr nj\u00eb shk\u00ebmbim territorial dhe nga administrata Trump mori sinjale inkurajuese.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Hashim Tha\u00e7i:<\/strong>\u00a0Shtetet e Bashkuara, Gjermania, Franca, Anglia dhe Italia gjithmon\u00eb kan\u00eb qen\u00eb t\u00eb pajtimit q\u00eb nuk duhet t\u00eb ket\u00eb ndryshime t\u00eb kufijve t\u00eb ri n\u00eb Ballkanin Per\u00ebndimor. Tani ata si duket nuk flasin m\u00eb me nj\u00eb z\u00eb. Kjo \u00ebsht\u00eb e keqe. Nj\u00eb marr\u00ebveshje e q\u00ebndrueshme ka vet\u00ebm at\u00ebher\u00eb baz\u00eb t\u00eb sh\u00ebndosh\u00eb n\u00ebse t\u00eb gjith\u00eb edhe SHBA-t\u00eb q\u00ebndrojn\u00eb prapa saj. Sepse sot, serb\u00ebt dhe kosovar\u00ebt i ndan\u00eb nj\u00eb lum\u00eb i t\u00ebr\u00eb prej gjaku. Der SPIEGEL: A mendoni se debati i ri mbi kufijt\u00eb p\u00ebrgjat\u00eb vendbanimeve etnike ka d\u00ebmtuar m\u00eb shum\u00eb paqen midis shqiptar\u00ebve dhe serb\u00ebve?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Hashim Tha\u00e7i:<\/strong>\u00a0Urrejtja historike \u00ebsht\u00eb shum\u00eb e thell\u00eb. B\u00ebm\u00eb shum\u00eb p\u00ebrpjekje p\u00ebr pajtim, kemi nj\u00eb komision p\u00ebr pajtim, kam vizituar komunat serbe. Por n\u00eb muajt e fundit, shum\u00eb vende kan\u00eb mposhtur k\u00ebto p\u00ebrpjekje, duke ngritur debatin p\u00ebr k\u00ebmbimet territoriale.<\/p>\n<p>Der SPIEGEL: Sa realiste \u00ebsht\u00eb q\u00eb Kosova dhe Serbia do t\u2019i bashkohen BE-s\u00eb n\u00eb t\u00eb ardhmen e parashikueshme? BE-ja \u00ebsht\u00eb lodhur nga zgjerimi, nj\u00eb nacionaliz\u00ebm i ri po p\u00ebrhapet.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Hashim Tha\u00e7i:<\/strong>\u00a0E vetmja e ardhme e mundshme p\u00ebr ne \u00ebsht\u00eb Bashkimi Evropian. Dhe ne po punojm\u00eb n\u00eb k\u00ebt\u00eb drejtim. Por n\u00eb fakt, edhe ne e kemi t\u00eb v\u00ebshtir\u00eb t\u00eb besojm\u00eb n\u00eb t\u00eb. Qytetar\u00ebt kosovar\u00eb ende kan\u00eb nevoj\u00eb p\u00ebr viz\u00eb p\u00ebr t\u00eb hyr\u00eb n\u00eb Evrop\u00eb. Liria e l\u00ebvizjes ende nuk vlen p\u00ebr ne, edhe pse tashm\u00eb q\u00eb dy vjet i kemi plot\u00ebsuar kushtet. Ne nuk duam dhurata, por duam respekt p\u00ebr at\u00eb q\u00eb kemi arritur. Ne jemi evropian\u00eb, por ende ekzistojn\u00eb shum\u00eb paragjykime kund\u00ebr nesh.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Der SPIEGEL:<\/strong>\u00a0Ngjash\u00ebm, jorealiste \u00ebsht\u00eb edhe shpresa juaj se Serbia mund t&#8217;i njoh\u00eb krimet e saja si gjenocid.Hashim Tha\u00e7i: 13. 000 t\u00eb vdekur, 400 masakra, 20. 000 p\u00ebrdhunime, 1.300 f\u00ebmij\u00eb t\u00eb vdekur, dhe Serbia \u00ebsht\u00eb fajtore p\u00ebr nisjen e k\u00ebtij gjenocidi t\u00eb planifikuar n\u00eb Kosov\u00eb. Drejt\u00ebsia nd\u00ebrkomb\u00ebtare, gjykata n\u00eb Hag\u00eb, ka d\u00ebshtuar n\u00eb rastin e Serbis\u00eb. Kjo \u00ebsht\u00eb arsyeja pse Beogradi ende mund t&#8217;i mohoj\u00eb k\u00ebto krime. Der SPIEGEL: Por jo vet\u00ebm midis dy shteteve t\u00eb Serbis\u00eb dhe Kosov\u00ebs \u00ebsht\u00eb marr\u00ebdh\u00ebnia e v\u00ebshtir\u00eb, por edhe midis qytetar\u00ebve serb\u00eb dhe atyre shqiptar\u00eb n\u00eb vendin tuaj ka ende tensione t\u00eb r\u00ebnda.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Hashim Tha\u00e7i:<\/strong>\u00a0Duhet t\u00eb b\u00ebjm\u00eb dallime midis serb\u00ebve dhe serb\u00ebve n\u00eb Kosov\u00eb. Kam punuar me ta p\u00ebr nj\u00eb koh\u00eb t\u00eb gjat\u00eb dhe at\u00eb n\u00eb m\u00ebnyr\u00eb shum\u00eb konstruktive. Shumica e tyre duan t\u00eb jetojn\u00eb n\u00eb paqe t\u00eb integruar n\u00eb shoq\u00ebrin\u00eb e Kosov\u00ebs. Por disa prej tyre jan\u00eb instrumentalizuar nga Beogradi. Ata jan\u00eb n\u00ebn presion, shum\u00eb kan\u00eb edhe frik\u00eb. K\u00ebtu BE-ja duhet t\u00eb marr\u00eb nj\u00eb q\u00ebndrim shum\u00eb m\u00eb t\u00eb qart\u00eb.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Der SPIEGEL:<\/strong>\u00a0Por serb\u00ebt jan\u00eb ende t\u00eb rrezikuar n\u00eb Kosov\u00eb. Autobus\u00ebt e shkollave hedhen me gur\u00eb, kishat ortodokse duhet t\u00eb ruhen nga trupat nd\u00ebrkomb\u00ebtare. Kur do t\u00eb ndalet kjo?<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u00a0Hashim Tha\u00e7i:<\/strong>\u00a0Nuk ka incidente t\u00eb k\u00ebtilla. E p\u00ebrs\u00ebris, serb\u00ebt n\u00eb Kosov\u00eb jan\u00eb t\u00eb integruar. Ata kan\u00eb shkollat e tyre, kopshtet e tyre. Ata mund t\u00eb l\u00ebvizin lirsh\u00ebm. Shum\u00eb prej tyre madje m\u00eb kan\u00eb votuar mua. Fqinj\u00ebt e mi jan\u00eb serb\u00eb, vet\u00ebm nj\u00eb mur na ndan. N\u00ebse ndodh di\u00e7ka, at\u00ebher\u00eb ato jan\u00eb incidente t\u00eb izoluara. Un\u00eb i d\u00ebnoj ato.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Der SPIEGEL:<\/strong>\u00a0Por a nuk duhet edhe pala shqiptare ta pranoj\u00eb fajin n\u00eb m\u00ebnyr\u00eb q\u00eb t\u00eb filloj\u00eb procesi i pajtimit? Edhe U\u00c7K-ja, t\u00eb cil\u00ebs i p\u00ebrkisnit, ka kryer krime.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Hashim Tha\u00e7i:<\/strong>\u00a0U\u00c7K-ja ishte nj\u00eb ushtri q\u00eb luftonte p\u00ebr liri, nuk b\u00ebnte krime. N\u00ebse ka pasur shkel\u00ebs individual\u00eb, ata duhet &#8211; dhe kjo po ndodh &#8211; t\u00eb gjykohen nga gjyq\u00ebsori kosovar. Por kjo nuk \u00ebsht\u00eb asgj\u00eb n\u00eb krahasim me at\u00eb q\u00eb kan\u00eb b\u00ebr\u00eb serb\u00ebt.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Der SPIEGEL:<\/strong>\u00a0Serb\u00ebt kan\u00eb b\u00ebr\u00eb pra gjenocid, U\u00c7K-ja nuk ka kryer krime. Duket se \u00ebsht\u00eb ende nj\u00eb rrug\u00eb e gjat\u00eb drejt pajtimit. \u00c7far\u00eb duhet t\u00eb b\u00ebj\u00eb Evropa p\u00ebr t\u00eb siguruar paqen? Hashim Tha\u00e7i: Ne jemi viktima t\u00eb faktit q\u00eb Evropa nuk flet me nj\u00eb z\u00eb t\u00eb vet\u00ebm. Un\u00eb nuk shoh ndonj\u00eb vizion serioz p\u00ebr Ballkanin Per\u00ebndimor.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Presidenti i Kosov\u00ebs Hashim Tha\u00e7i n\u00eb nj\u00eb intervist\u00eb p\u00ebr gjermanen &#8220;Der Spiegel&#8221; ka deklaruar se me serb\u00ebt i ndan nj\u00eb lum me gjak. Tha\u00e7i tha se nuk kishte pritshm\u00ebri nga samiti i Berlinit, por vler\u00ebsoi angazhimin personal t\u00eb kancelares Merkel dhe Presidentit Macron. Intervista e plot\u00eb e Tha\u00e7it p\u00ebr Der Spiegel: Der SPIEGEL:\u00a0Z. President kishte [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2013,"featured_media":69702,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[241,2],"tags":[],"class_list":{"0":"post-82134","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","5":"has-post-thumbnail","7":"category-aktualitet","8":"category-rajoni"},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/zjarr.tv\/sq\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/82134","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/zjarr.tv\/sq\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/zjarr.tv\/sq\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/zjarr.tv\/sq\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2013"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/zjarr.tv\/sq\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=82134"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/zjarr.tv\/sq\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/82134\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/zjarr.tv\/sq\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/69702"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/zjarr.tv\/sq\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=82134"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/zjarr.tv\/sq\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=82134"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/zjarr.tv\/sq\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=82134"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}